Hair-tivities

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I'm Shannon

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and I'm Lisa

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and you're listening to Blacktivities,

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a celebration of all things black

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black culture, black history,

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black perspectives, and black panache

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celebrating our blackness doesn't mean exclusion

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everybody's invited, but you gotta come in and have a seat.

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So let the Blacktivities begin.

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All right.

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Welcome back to Blacktivities.

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Are you returning with myself, Talisa, actually known as Mona Lisa the

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poet, and then the lovely, lovely Ms.

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Shannon.

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Welcome to episode two of a celebration of something great.

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With a side of positivity and a dash of panache.

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Remember, you're here to celebrate every other Thursday

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we're back with a new episode.

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Okay, so Shannon real quick.

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I have a title of this episode.

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I wanna title this Hair-tivities.

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[Okay.] So I feel like this is really, really fitting,

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considering something recently that happened to one of my children.

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I am a mother of three and, um, I have to say I have history.

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Okay.

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When it comes to hair doing my own hair, when I was younger, I had girls, you know,

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used to ride the bus home and I would put box braids in their hair when I was 12.

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So you would think that I was a master.

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Okay.

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A cosmetology master when it comes to hair.

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Mm, no, not this time.

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my youngest daughter.

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We decided that we was gonna do something a little different,

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like we gonna shake it up.

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I decided to braid her hair up.

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And instead of letting her natural hair just be free, I decided that, Hey,

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I'm gonna buy one of these little fake poom poom balls to sit at the top, you

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know, kind of cheating a little bit.

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Cause that's what we do.

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You know, go ahead and do her hair the night before the next day.

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I'm thinking.

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Okay.

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I have successfully conquered and masked her hair.

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I go on with my regular Workday.

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I go and pick her up.

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Okay.

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She gets in the car and she is highly upset with me.

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You wanna know why she's highly upset with me?

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She informed me that she was playing in gym and she felt something

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brush the back of her neck.

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And she was like, wait a minute.

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What was that?

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And she looked down and the poom poom ball, the Afro ball was laying on

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the ground in the middle of the gym.

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Okay.

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[Oh no] The school she goes to there, there was African Americans

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sprinkled throughout the school.

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There's not a whole big, you know, it's just sprinkled.

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Okay.

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So I was like, oh my God, like.

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What did you do?

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She said, mama, I picked it up off the floor.

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I put it up under my shirt and I just ran out the gym.

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I ain't ask nobody to go.

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I didn't ask for permission.

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I just ran.

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I was just like, where did you go?

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She said I went to the bathroom?

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And, I don't know.

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Somehow she ended up at the, at the school nurse.

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Okay.

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Now this was an emergency to where she was like, I gotta go to the school nurse.

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She said that the school nurse who is Caucasian put it back on and pinned it.

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Okay.

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She pinned it back on there.

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And I sat that in disbelief, like, oh my God, one, I did my baby like this.

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I did her dirty, I didn't secure the bun.

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first of all, but two someone that night, she was able to fix my baby.

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She saw my baby in distress and she was able.

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To assist her.

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So I wanna do a round of applause for that for her, you know, assisting my baby.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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[Most definitely.] Yes.

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Yes.

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Cause I embarrassed.

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I embarrassed the shit outta my child.

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[poor baby.] Yeah.

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Poor baby.

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I, I feel so bad when it comes to that.

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So when you have situations like this and.

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I know that I'm not the only person that have been in, you

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know, an embarrassing situation.

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Everyone has had their embarrassing hair story.

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It just comes with a territory and as crazy as it is, as it is, um, we still

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have to embrace this hair, this history and this free-ish choice of hair-tivities,

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which brings us to SAC's facts.

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Yes.

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Well, before we do SAC's Facts Talisa, I have to applaud

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you for being a mom of three girls, because I can tell you this.

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I have one girl and trying to do her hair.

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I feel like I need a drink.

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Like it's, it's

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a lot.

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Look, it's gonna get worse, but then it's gonna get better

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and they're gonna appreciate it.

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So you got this.

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Okay.

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Well.

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I'll just stay tuned then.

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all right.

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SAC's Facts.

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If you don't know you should, our hair has been one of our prized

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and distinct characteristics since we were still in the motherland.

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Before they brought us here.

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Our hair said a lot about our identity.

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You could tell who had the juice and who folks repped by their hairstyles.

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You could tell who was going to war and who was in mourning all by their hair.

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Some even believed that hair was spiritual and brought them closer to God.

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Our hair is part of our flair then and now.

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And people have been trying to dim our light since they brought our

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ancestors to this country and cut off their precious hair and enslaved them.

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In 1786 in Louisiana.

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They passed laws called Tignon laws.

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And it probably sounds different when I say it with my country accent, but

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that made us cover our hair because it became a threat to white women's

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security when they saw our beauty was catching the eyes of their men.

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But what did we do?

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We showed them that we are a whole mood by throwing our flair into those head wraps.

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We owned it and we still turned heads.

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When Louisiana became part of the U.S.

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In 1803, those laws went away, but we continued to wear our head wraps

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as a way to fight the powers that be.

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Post slavery in the 19th century, society said that if we wanted to be beautiful,

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We needed to straighten our hair.

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We started using chemicals and hot combs to do just that.

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And we owned it like we've done for centuries, but in the sixties

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and seventies, we said, we ain't going, y'all finna get these fros,

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and we finna get these rights.

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And once again, our hair became part of the protest.

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Meanwhile, our Marcus Garvey inspired Rastafarian friends in

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Jamaica started wearing dreadlocks in the 1930s as a part of a belief

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that the hair should not be cut.

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Today, we are still working that panache with our hair.

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Black hair is a multi billion dollar industry.

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Some of us have gotten off the creamy crack and...

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Oooh, don't do that.

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Some of us, some of us...

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and we're still wearing our hair anyway we want to.

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Long, short, fro, kinks, locks, wigs, weaves, all different colors.

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Hair is still a huge mode of expression in the black community.

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And that's SAC's Facts..

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All right.

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I love it.

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I love it.

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In the beginning, you said your hair, it represents us.

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What would you say your hair right now?

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Say about you.

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Uh...

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right now, I think my hair says.

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I D G A F.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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okay.

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Um, but with you, I think with your hair, the way it is, and if,

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I don't know if y'all seen her, her hair is short and she got it dyed.

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Oh my God.

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I'm in love with this color that she has on there.

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I think it, it, it does.

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It says that, but it shows again you're strong and the

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natural thing, it just with me.

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Yes, I do have a relaxer.

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I'm obsessed with the edges, but I know if I go natural, I'm gonna have to I'm lazy.

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I'm gonna have to like, try to figure out my whole edge game.

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Cause I like it swooped and stuff.

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Like [You like a swoop.] Yeah.

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Swoop.

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[Okay.] I think if I had to I'd be like, I'm on like a Josephine baker

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type thing right now with the shorts.

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[Okay.

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Okay.

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I got you.] So that that's like, that's the thing, but I know I wouldn't be

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able to achieve that look, you know what I'm saying with, with the natural.

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So...

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I mean, I had a really big fro and I love my really big fro, but [mm-hmm]

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I don't know how to do hair that great.

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So like, I would just wet it, put some product in there and just kind of

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like poof it out and that would be it.

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But then when I wake up, it's like smushed to the side of my head.

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Mm-hmm I have to applaud people with natural hair though.

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It's funny that we growing up, they say, okay, your hair, her hair is nappy.

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And they say that they, they point it out as being lazy.

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[Mm-hmm.] But my older two children, they're 20 and 16.

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And I sit and I watch them.

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The amount of money that they spend on hair products, what it takes like their

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process far as wash day, yo that's hours.

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Like I applaud them.

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[Oh yeah.] And it's like, I remember, you know, when they were younger doing

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their hair, like I was sitting here, man, my hand cramped up and I had to

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do both of their hair back to back.

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Sundays was the wash day, you know?

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So.

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I have to applaud it.

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It it's more than less when it comes to lazy people with the relaxing stuff.

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That's lazy.

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No, no people with natural hair.

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I give y'all the emoji, the, the strong arm emoji I have

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to, because it is amazing.

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It is so amazing.

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My baby girl, she has an awesome curl pattern.

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[Mm-hmm] but it also gets tangled cuz she is four and she just refuses

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to keep the bonnet on at night.

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But yeah, it takes hours to wash and do her hair [mm-hmm] and

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all the while she's like, owww...

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mommy, it hurts.

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With head wraps and the braids and the crowns, and like the shells

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we was used to put in the hair and to kind of like represent us.

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What place does the wigs and the lace fronts represent today?

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Is it a strong like statement as the head wraps and you know, the

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shells on the end of the beads?

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And dreadlocks?

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Is it, does it give the same message in your opinion?

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I don't know, I think wigs and weaves and lace fronts.

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Like, I think it's kind of just another statement of our creativity, because

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it's like the possibilities for the way we do our hair are like endless,

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cuz even now, like my hair is short and you would think, okay, well she

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can't do much with it, but you know, I might come in with long hair one day.

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Let me tell, let me tell you baby, if y'all know where I work at.

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Dem white men where I work at baby.

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They love it.

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When I come and I be short one day Halle Berry, and the

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next day be long to my butt.

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They come peeping at me.

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It's cool.

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But I, I, I totally agree with you.

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I do agree with you far as like switching it up.

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Just don't come asking me, is that my real hair?

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[Right?] Cause I'm gonna give you the side eye.

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You know, it ain't like, Ugh.

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What about the trend of men getting lace fronts?

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Now, I don't know about that.

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I don't know about that.

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Could you, could you that, that's what we need to ask people,

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ask women, could you go on a date with the man that, you know, has

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a lace front on his head or beard?

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They even doing the beard joints.

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I've seen the videos.

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I just...

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don't tell me.

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I don't wanna know.

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What if, what if like, OK.

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I know you're married, but I'll just say, okay.

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For women out there.

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What if you're like out on a date and a dude that has a lace front

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has an embarrassing moment, like my child did, like, what would you say?

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Would you say, oh, would you help him out and be like, yo, your beard coming up?

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You know what I mean?

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like, what would you do?

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Like, would you mash his edges down?

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Like, cause the glue coming up, like what would you help?

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[Oh no...] we need to ask.

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We need to ask so they can, yeah, we, we going, we gonna open it up so we can...

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We're gonna take that to social media.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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Cause that right there, I don't know.

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It'll throw me for a loop.

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It would me too, cause I wouldn't be expecting it.

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Right, right.

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So I'm gonna ask you a question when it comes to perms versus being natural

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in your opinion, before I share, what do you think men's preference is?

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Hmm.

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I don't know, because I feel like a lot of men are embracing the natural styles.

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I feel like a lot of men like that exotic look and so they go for these women that

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wear the long lace fronts and stuff.

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[Mm-hmm.] So, I don't know.

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I asked a couple men, do they prefer nappy, natural, or straight hair.

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Now I did have one gentleman correct me.

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He said now baby, it ain't nothing nappy.

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He said you could use the term natural, but ain't nothing nappy.

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I said, I clutch my pearls.

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I said, OK, OK.

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Cat daddy, where we going?

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you know what I mean?

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But this is what he said.

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He said, I'm not sure where this falls, but first I like a woman with clean hair.

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[Okay.] And I was like, okay.

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He said, if it is natural, straight, it really don't matter.

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He said, I like her scalp to smell good.

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And as long as she's presentable, she is totally my type.

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Long as she makes it work for her.

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And I was like, okay.

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[Yeah.] Okay.

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I can hear that.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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He just want her to be clean.

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Now another gentleman said I prefer natural.

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I think it is very sexy for a woman to have a fro.

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And I was like, okay, another guy said he prefers natural.

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Now I purposely asked a gentleman who is not African American, his preference.

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[Okay.] And he said he prefers straight hair.

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[Okay.] I don't wanna say that's to be expected, but now this character,

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this is the one that corrected me.

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and I hope that we can get him on cuz he is very hilarious.

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His TikTok is booming.

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He said that I don't like to use the term nappy.

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When talking about women or black people in general, I would

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say textured or course hair.

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I love when women hair is natural, the fros the natural hair entices me.

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He was like, however you say it, but that's my thing.

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Okay.

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So team natural.

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Okay.

Lisa: 00:16:17

Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I'm still getting a relaxer.

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I don't care what y'all say.

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Ain't nan one of them paying my bills.

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The men that I asked, they natural is the thing.

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But my thing is when you see like rap videos or like men, like they don't,

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you don't see natural women out there.

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If, if I'm wrong, correct me, but you always see the lace

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fronts and the straight hair, like that's, that's what you see.

Lisa: 00:16:43

[Mm-hmm] and long eyelashes.

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Mm-hmm.

Shannon: 00:16:44

Yeah, but some of y'all taking it too far with them eyelashes,

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but that's a different...

Lisa: 00:16:47

Yeah, that's a D no, I was gonna do it.

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I said, no.

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Anyway, I was happy to, you know, Ask these men, their opinions

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and it, it really did it.

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It shocked me to hear that men really prefer women with natural hair.

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It intrigued me like, okay, maybe I should kind of like try it out, but I'm scared.

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I'm gonna cut mine off of my head.

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Gonna be shaped funny.

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Like, you know how you get the peanut M&Ms.

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It won't, your hair's already short.

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It won't.

Lisa: 00:17:13

All right.

Lisa: 00:17:13

What do you think about.

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I know you had bought this up to me, hairstyles that are renamed and rebranded,

Shannon: 00:17:20

like boxer braids?

Lisa: 00:17:23

Yes.

Lisa: 00:17:24

The Kim Kardashian braids.

Lisa: 00:17:25

I said, I wasn't gonna say her name.

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Them is not her braids.

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we've been doing that.

Lisa: 00:17:32

Right, right.

Lisa: 00:17:33

I look at that, like the two braids to the back.

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That's when your granny didn't feel like doing that and your mama done

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dropped you off at your granny house.

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She's like, come in here, get that combed.

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And she know the Vaseline and she parted the middle braid two braids to the back.

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You outside and play.

Lisa: 00:17:45

Kimberly was nowhere around then.

Shannon: 00:17:47

I got no words for that...

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no words.

Lisa: 00:17:51

So how about this?

Lisa: 00:17:52

Let's do a little trivia.

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So let's see if you are up on your hair-tivities.

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Again, this is just a couple.

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All right.

Lisa: 00:18:05

First off.

Lisa: 00:18:06

How can we talk about hair without mentioning first millionaire,

Lisa: 00:18:11

Madam CJ Walker, African American entrepreneur, activist, philanthropist.

Lisa: 00:18:16

Did she create the hot comb?

Lisa: 00:18:19

True or false.

Lisa: 00:18:20

She did.

Lisa: 00:18:21

Did she create it?

Lisa: 00:18:22

Yeah.

Lisa: 00:18:22

People say she did.

Shannon: 00:18:24

I don't think she did though.

Lisa: 00:18:27

Yep.

Lisa: 00:18:27

That is true.

Lisa: 00:18:29

People give her credit for creating a hot comb and she didn't.

Lisa: 00:18:33

Now she may have took the idea and ran with it and threw

Lisa: 00:18:36

some other stuff with it.

Lisa: 00:18:37

But no, she did not create the hot comb far as that devil hot comb

Lisa: 00:18:41

that killed me mostly on Easters.

Lisa: 00:18:46

It was created by a French woman in the late 1800s by the name of Marcel Grateau.

Lisa: 00:18:52

I think that's how you say her name.

Shannon: 00:18:54

Every little black girl can smell that hot comb and the burnt....

Lisa: 00:18:58

Mm-hmm let me tell you, we, we, we get like shell shock.

Lisa: 00:19:02

Like if we hear a sizzle, we just like, we kind of like move our head

Lisa: 00:19:06

over, like, ah, it'll be nothing.

Lisa: 00:19:08

It be like a, it could be like a gnat or something.

Lisa: 00:19:11

All right.

Lisa: 00:19:12

True or false.

Lisa: 00:19:13

You can still find Madam CJ Walker hair products in stores today.

Shannon: 00:19:21

I'm gonna say that's true.

Lisa: 00:19:22

Yes.

Lisa: 00:19:23

Ma'am.

Lisa: 00:19:24

That is true.

Lisa: 00:19:25

You can find these products mostly online at Amazon.

Lisa: 00:19:28

Obviously they have everything.

Lisa: 00:19:29

It's the portal of everything [mm-hmm] Walmart and supposedly

Lisa: 00:19:33

Sephora carries some things too.

Lisa: 00:19:36

I'm gonna go.

Shannon: 00:19:36

Okay.

Shannon: 00:19:36

That one's surprising.

Lisa: 00:19:38

Mm-hmm I'm gonna go research that.

Lisa: 00:19:40

All right, one more...

Lisa: 00:19:42

true or false Shea Moisture and Carol's Daughter is black owned..

Shannon: 00:19:49

Just based off the fact that there are a lot of

Shannon: 00:19:52

companies that are black started, but then they get bought by...

Lisa: 00:19:58

Look at you.

Shannon: 00:20:00

Other companies I'm gonna say no.

Lisa: 00:20:01

That...

Lisa: 00:20:01

that's the...

Lisa: 00:20:04

that's right.

Lisa: 00:20:05

And Cantu Cantu also no longer black owned?

Lisa: 00:20:09

Nope.

Lisa: 00:20:10

Nope.

Lisa: 00:20:10

Nope.

Lisa: 00:20:10

And I think that's fascinating that, I mean, would you start a

Lisa: 00:20:14

business and like, is there a dollar sign on you that you could just

Lisa: 00:20:18

be like, you know what I'm done?

Shannon: 00:20:21

Absolutely.

Lisa: 00:20:21

Okay.

Lisa: 00:20:22

Well, boom, there you have it.

Shannon: 00:20:24

Buy me out.

Lisa: 00:20:28

I think I have to like still put in a contract cuz it's your vision, you know,

Lisa: 00:20:31

put in a contract like you can't make any changes, like don't, don't go out the.

Shannon: 00:20:36

That part would be hard, but then when you have your millions and

Shannon: 00:20:41

mm-hmm, you sitting out on the beach, you might not kinda cared that much.

Lisa: 00:20:46

Yeah.

Lisa: 00:20:47

That kind of does like trump it all.

Lisa: 00:20:49

I think it's time for Mona Lisa's pieces.

Lisa: 00:21:05

I had to title this piece that I wrote Hair-tivities.

Lisa: 00:21:09

So just, just come vibe with me.

Lisa: 00:21:13

Smiling from ear to ear grin, just as big as the Nile.

Lisa: 00:21:19

Smirk on how the changing appearance have their curiosity coiled around

Lisa: 00:21:24

hostile thoughts of melanin style influences, random minds, whatever

Lisa: 00:21:31

compels you to do it well, do it.

Lisa: 00:21:34

Chin up.

Lisa: 00:21:35

Forever confident.

Lisa: 00:21:36

He doesn't need hair for that.

Lisa: 00:21:38

She doesn't either.

Lisa: 00:21:40

Strong fist crouching nigga it's more than reciprocating the fro and the figure.

Lisa: 00:21:47

The chemistry mixed up in a glass bunsen burner.

Lisa: 00:21:51

Then poof, the smoke clears and the swag's the winner.

Lisa: 00:21:56

Pin him first.

Lisa: 00:21:58

The fair has been won and everyone agrees it was the one who was able to square up.

Lisa: 00:22:06

No matter what, all eyes will never blink twice.

Lisa: 00:22:11

They watching.

Lisa: 00:22:12

So look your best at all times.

Lisa: 00:22:14

No sweat.

Lisa: 00:22:16

Just continue with success.

Lisa: 00:22:18

Marcus Garvey said, you must remove the kinks from your mind, but not your hair.

Lisa: 00:22:25

Mona.

Shannon: 00:22:26

All right.

Shannon: 00:22:29

Yes.

Shannon: 00:22:31

I love it.

Lisa: 00:22:32

Yay.

Lisa: 00:22:34

Thanks.

Lisa: 00:22:35

Well, this party's coming to a end today, but let 'em know

Lisa: 00:22:39

where they can continue to party.

Shannon: 00:22:41

Come on out to the cookout.

Shannon: 00:22:43

We saving you a plate.

Shannon: 00:22:44

It's already wrapped up.

Shannon: 00:22:46

Uh, you can check the show notes for links to our Patreon, social media, the articles

Shannon: 00:22:52

we use for SAC's Facts, and to get your own blacktivitees and other merch it's all

Shannon: 00:23:00

in the show notes, everything is there.

Shannon: 00:23:02

Gonna have some conversations going around this hair thing too cuz there's a lot

Shannon: 00:23:06

more that we did not talk about today.

Shannon: 00:23:09

[Yes.] And we wanna hear from y'all.

Shannon: 00:23:12

But until then...